Comments on: Focus for the SDCBC in 2010: The Urban Core http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:18:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SD Bike Coalition and the ‘Urban Core’ « San Diego Bike Polo http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-993 SD Bike Coalition and the ‘Urban Core’ « San Diego Bike Polo Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:47:42 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-993 [...] SD Bike Coalition Focus of 2010 SDCBC Focuses on Urban Core in 2010 [...] [...] SD Bike Coalition Focus of 2010 SDCBC Focuses on Urban Core in 2010 [...]

]]> By: aj http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-793 aj Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:18:51 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-793 What are the hurdles associated with making bike boulevards? I don’t pretend to imply they are small, by any means, but I’m interested in what we can do to make them a reality. Sharrows or designated Bike Boulevards seem like such an inexpensive and wholly satisfying solution to a huge majority of San Diego cyclists. What has to happen to get some paint on the road and some signs put up? I’m being overly simplistic, obviously, but Bike Boulevards should be way easier to sell than bike lanes or bicycle specific infrastructure investment, I’d think (By “Bike Boulevard” I mean a street designated by signage and painted markings as a preferential cycling route, just like the examples in Berkeley. Cars allowed, but it’s very clear that bicycles have precedence on those routes.) What are the hurdles associated with making bike boulevards? I don’t pretend to imply they are small, by any means, but I’m interested in what we can do to make them a reality. Sharrows or designated Bike Boulevards seem like such an inexpensive and wholly satisfying solution to a huge majority of San Diego cyclists. What has to happen to get some paint on the road and some signs put up? I’m being overly simplistic, obviously, but Bike Boulevards should be way easier to sell than bike lanes or bicycle specific infrastructure investment, I’d think (By “Bike Boulevard” I mean a street designated by signage and painted markings as a preferential cycling route, just like the examples in Berkeley. Cars allowed, but it’s very clear that bicycles have precedence on those routes.)

]]> By: Everett http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-772 Everett Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:47:57 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-772 Absolutely, the urban core represents the best of what cycling can do for cities as a transportation mode. Most of N. County is too sparse and has BL's etc on the major high speed roads, and the others don't connect. But the core can host Tour De Fat's and actually get people to ride there. As someone who commutes over the Texas street overpass, I completely agree that it needs reworking. And the need for the Adams/Camino connection. A diverse network can appeal to many different riders. As to the needs in the core, bike parking that takes up street spots and offers real priority for bikes would be great at numerous locations. Also true bike boulevards where through motor traffic is diverted away, but bikes go through would be great. Sharrows, sharrows, sharrows. Someone please let Todd Gloria know we are looking for big things in 2010. Absolutely, the urban core represents the best of what cycling can do for cities as a transportation mode.

Most of N. County is too sparse and has BL’s etc on the major high speed roads, and the others don’t connect.

But the core can host Tour De Fat’s and actually get people to ride there.

As someone who commutes over the Texas street overpass, I completely agree that it needs reworking. And the need for the Adams/Camino connection. A diverse network can appeal to many different riders.

As to the needs in the core, bike parking that takes up street spots and offers real priority for bikes would be great at numerous locations. Also true bike boulevards where through motor traffic is diverted away, but bikes go through would be great.

Sharrows, sharrows, sharrows.

Someone please let Todd Gloria know we are looking for big things in 2010.

]]> By: William http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-771 William Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:50:15 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-771 As someone who lives "outside" the core, I initially thought it'd be a bummer NOT to be included. But 3/4s of my commuter is inside the core and it's also the area I wish most for better cycling areas and ammentities. Great idea SDCBC! I'm looking forward to your efforts! As someone who lives “outside” the core, I initially thought it’d be a bummer NOT to be included. But 3/4s of my commuter is inside the core and it’s also the area I wish most for better cycling areas and ammentities. Great idea SDCBC! I’m looking forward to your efforts!

]]> By: KK http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-769 KK Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:34:35 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-769 dang it. When I said 'work should be done this year' I meant 'work on the environmental document' not 'work on building the bike path'. Sorry if anyone got all excited thinking the path would be done this year. Must learn to proofread before hitting 'submit comment'. :-) dang it. When I said ‘work should be done this year’ I meant ‘work on the environmental document’ not ‘work on building the bike path’. Sorry if anyone got all excited thinking the path would be done this year.
Must learn to proofread before hitting ‘submit comment’. :-)

]]> By: KK http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-767 KK Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:33:15 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-767 PS - on the I-15 corridor, work is starting again after a bit of a break. Caltrans and the city have money to do the environmental analysis of the bike path connection from Adams to Camino del Rio South, and that work should be done this year. PS – on the I-15 corridor, work is starting again after a bit of a break. Caltrans and the city have money to do the environmental analysis of the bike path connection from Adams to Camino del Rio South, and that work should be done this year.

]]> By: KK http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-766 KK Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:32:03 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-766 Good comments on expanding the area to include Mission Valley, but I'm afraid it would be biting off even a more gigantic bite than we're already contemplating. The Coalition certainly won't only be working on issues in the urban core, but we do want to have a focus there to get some improvements (parking, signage, events, ???) going visibly in 2010. Let's get some momentum going in the core, so we can then spread out that energy to the rest of the county. So what should we be doing? more parking? free bagels for bicyclists every Friday? Ciclovias? Bike light giveaways? Car-free Fridays? Most bike facilities take way longer than one year to complete, so let's think outside the bikelane. If you had to pick one thing to work on, that you/we could complete in 2010 to improve cycling in the core, what would it be? Good comments on expanding the area to include Mission Valley, but I’m afraid it would be biting off even a more gigantic bite than we’re already contemplating. The Coalition certainly won’t only be working on issues in the urban core, but we do want to have a focus there to get some improvements (parking, signage, events, ???) going visibly in 2010. Let’s get some momentum going in the core, so we can then spread out that energy to the rest of the county.
So what should we be doing? more parking? free bagels for bicyclists every Friday? Ciclovias? Bike light giveaways? Car-free Fridays?
Most bike facilities take way longer than one year to complete, so let’s think outside the bikelane. If you had to pick one thing to work on, that you/we could complete in 2010 to improve cycling in the core, what would it be?

]]> By: Ray http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-765 Ray Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:34:37 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-765 I agree with Derek. The most pressing issue in my experience is the lack of a safe and convenient way from the Uptown mesa down into Mission Valley and back. We were promised a Class I path parallel to 1-15 when the 40th St. route was taken for the freeway expansion. As with many promises made to the local cycling community, the City and CalTrans reneged on their pledge to build this connection. Both Texas St. and Fairmount Ave. put cyclists in conflict with speeding motor traffic whose drivers are invariably surprised to find themselves sharing high speed transitions and ramps with slow moving cyclists. Texas St. over I-8 is bad enough, but Mission Gorge/Fairmount/Montezuma/Aldine is even worse. I agree with Derek. The most pressing issue in my experience is the lack of a safe and convenient way from the Uptown mesa down into Mission Valley and back. We were promised a Class I path parallel to 1-15 when the 40th St. route was taken for the freeway expansion. As with many promises made to the local cycling community, the City and CalTrans reneged on their pledge to build this connection. Both Texas St. and Fairmount Ave. put cyclists in conflict with speeding motor traffic whose drivers are invariably surprised to find themselves sharing high speed transitions and ramps with slow moving cyclists. Texas St. over I-8 is bad enough, but Mission Gorge/Fairmount/Montezuma/Aldine is even worse.

]]> By: Derek http://www.bikesd.org/2010/01/focus-for-the-sdcbc-the-urban-core/comment-page-1/#comment-764 Derek Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:13:23 +0000 http://www.bikesd.org/?p=1158#comment-764 I think the northern boundary should include Friars Rd. I don't bike in the area, but I hear it's difficult to get to and from the urban core through Mission Valley. I think the northern boundary should include Friars Rd. I don’t bike in the area, but I hear it’s difficult to get to and from the urban core through Mission Valley.

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